Papal-Antichrist theory: An Argument in favor of the Roman Church?


I found this on the net and it says, "After this general survey of the Protestant views concerning the Antichrist, we shall be able to appreciate some of Cardinal Newman's critical remarks on the question [re: AntiChrist].”  We will assume that the writer is either quoting or  presenting the cardinal’s  view  on the subject matter; and we will also give our view:

    "If any part of the Church be proved to be antichristian, all of the Church is so, the Protestant branch inclusive."

            To disprove the papal-antichrist theory by arguing that if it is true, it would also include “all of the Church” including the  Protestant, is not a sound argument.  It is the same as saying,  “since the Catholic Church is [of] the Antichrist,  then all churches are too, all destined to go to hell.”   This smells like an admission, but at the same time like saying ‘we are not alone.’

      And it probably is true, since the antichrist is associated with "Babylon the great " (Rev.17.4), described as a harlot (woman=church, therefore, evil woman= evil church) .  This harlot is also described as mother of harlots.  Therefore the harlot-evil church has daughters that are harlots too. (evil women=evil churches).  The ‘Cardinal’s argument did not disprove the theory, he , in fact, confirms it.  In few words.

   "The Papal-Antichrist theory was gradually developed by three historical bodies: the Albigenses, the Waldenses, and the Fraticelli, between the eleventh and the sixteenth centuries: are these the expositors from whom the Church of Christ is to receive the true interpretation of the prophecies?"

        The cardinal’s question of course is rhetorical.  Cardinal Newman only means that the Albigensis, Waldenses, and all schools of thought pointing to the pope or the Catholic church  as the Antichrist are not the authorities to give us the true interpretation of the prophecies about the Antichrist.  And at the same time rhetorically places the Catholic Church as the one who can truly interpret it.  But the problem is, what if the Papal-Antichrist theory is correct?  The result is obvious.  The world would be deprived of knowing the true identity of the Antichrist.  

        The Catholic Church as of yet, has not given us a concrete and complete interpretation of the prophecies.  The most that they have done so far is to point to a future Antichrist, or to some sort of a redherring.  They say that the Antichrist could be Nero, and with some clever  manipulation, the name adds up to 666.  Through it all, in effect, the official church declaration is that there is no antichrist yet.

        But isn’t it clear from the bible that the spirit of the Antichrist was already working during time of the apostles? (1 John 4:2)  That from the ranks of bishops of the first century church “shall men arise, speaking perverse things to draw away disciples after them” (Acts 20:29-30)?  Wasn’t the catholic church could be traced back from then?  These are just some valid observations that place the Pope, even the church itself, as the prime suspect of being the Antichrist.

    "The defenders of the Papal-Antichrist theory have made several signal blunders in their arguments;..."


        I agree. But their several blunders do not automatically make the theory false. It could also mean that they are the harlot daughters of a harlot mother.  Pardon my french.

    "Protestants were driven to the Papal-Antichrist theory by the necessity of opposing a popular answer to the popular and cogent arguments advanced by the Church of Rome for her Divine authority"


        Hmmm.   What are those popular and cogent arguments advanced by the Church of Rome?  That Nero could be the Antichrist?  That is not popular, much less cogent to me.

            That the church of Rome, nor any part of it, could not be the Antichrist, because of its divine authority owing to the fact that it could be traced back to the first century church?  Well, here is something for that timeline: Paul said, “after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock." (Acts 20:29).  The flock is the church. (v. 28). The wolves did enter the church after Paul's departure.  Maybe I'm wrong in understanding Paul.  I let you understand the statement yourself.
           
             Of course anyone can claim Divine authority. But proving it is another story.

   " Warburton, Newton, and Hurd, the advocates of the Papal-Antichrist theory, cannot be matched against the saints of the Church of Rome."
Another claim, that is, that there are saints in the church of Rome. 

    "If the Pope be Antichrist, those who receive and follow him cannot be men like St. Charles Borromeo, or FĂ©nelon, or St. Bernard, or St. Francis de Sales."


        Why, who are these saints? Apostles?  Prophets?  Who made them saints, anyway? The words of God? No, the Pope through the process of beatification and canonization.  Why cite these "saints" in belying the "papal-antichrist theory" even to non-Catholics? 


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(Quotes are from http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01559a.htm)